The Kingdom of Paradise!!

sevens
may i sugest that you wait untill you have acomprehensable doctrine before you atempt any more discussion on AE. A series of facts is not enough to predict the coming of the christ, and untill you can relate those facts to biblical prophesy in a  consise clear fassion, everyone is just going to get confused and right yo off as a loon. now i and not saying that you are a loon at all. don't get me wrong. i just need clarity, so when you've finished your research, come back and tell us because half a picture really is not a solid foundation for debate and crossexamination, let alone concideration.

Here is an interesting news article for the Published: 08 Jan 2009.  Yesterday

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/ufos/article2108149.ece
click on link for videos and images

UFO hits wind turbine

A WIND turbine stood wrecked yesterday with one of its giant 65ft blades torn off — after it was hit by a UFO. Locals were woken by the 4am smash after strange lights were spotted streaking towards the 290ft-tall generator on a wind farm. Baffled power chiefs said of the smash in Conisholme, Lincs: “We have a team investigating.” There was no trace of the missing blade. A UFO expert said: “We are very excited.” Witness ... Lesley Whittingham, 71 A woman motorist told how she saw a UFO zoom towards the wind farm and strike the 290ft turbine. Dorothy Willows — who lives half a mile from the scene of the hit-and-run — was in her car when “strange lights” loomed in the evening sky. She was among dozens who spotted the mysterious flashing orangey-yellow spheres over Lincolnshire — where the turbine was left wrecked. Dorothy, of Louth, said: “The lights were moving across the sky towards the wind farm. "Then I saw a low flying object. It was skimming across the sky towards the turbines.” Hours later there was an almighty smash. Dorothy said: “My husband Stephen was woken at 4am by the bang.” Afterwards there was no trace of one of the turbine’s three huge 65ft blades — ripped off in the collision. Another was left twisted and useless. Other locals told how the lights looked like balls of flames. Lesley Whittingham, 71, even managed to photograph it — and said: “It looked like a giant explosion in the air.” John Harrison, another witness, described how he looked out of his landing window and saw a “massive ball of light with tentacles going right down to the ground” over the wind farm. He said: “It was huge. With the tentacles it looked just like an octopus.” The object that struck the turbine at Conisholme near Louth on Sunday dodged others surrounding it — and last night experts had no explanation for what it was. There were NO reports of any aircraft collisions. Council health and safety officials said even the strongest gale was unlikely to be responsible. The damage was described by the Health and Safety Executive as a “unique incident”. Wind farm company Ecotricity admitted: “We don’t know what caused the problem. We are investigating.” UFO expert Russ Kellett, of Flying Saucer Review, told how dozens of reports of mystery objects poured in before the crash. He said: “Balls of light were seen in the sky and the MoD has no explanation. We are very, very excited about this.” Last night the incident was the talk of the internet. It was dubbed the “Octopus UFO” because of the tentacles and how the lights appeared joined in formation. The MoD said of the latest scare: “Unless there is evidence of a potential threat , there is no attempt to identify the nature of each sighting.”

That has strong metaphor from our Universal brothers.

We will soon found out after the test! I hope they do a full forensic and they are honest, there should be a signature indicating something that we recognize.

A test! see what happens!

Sevens

Edited by sevens - 09-Jan-2009 at 07:01

Wow Cyrus

I never knew that brother, I feel honored with your contribution God is leading the way and the path through his people, his people of the Zoroaster religion.  I praise the Father in Paradise for his beautiful people and the knowledge that comes along his path.

I remember a few years ago when in the start of this on the run journey I met an Iranian man who was from the Zoroaster religion and I was impressed by his peace from within himself and his truth and goodness.  We both concluded that many beautiful things will come out of Iran in the future and we both agreed on the long and illustrious history of Iran where we both look forward to when the truth of this beautiful path will be revealed for the world.

I believe this truth will come from Iran and especially those of the Zoroaster religion.  I know they all good people who live upon the good tenant of Zoroaster who realized the truth and made his stand on truth 600BC.

Glory be I say for this current up step in knowledge and upgrade that leads directly to Paradise for all mankind no matter what religion, following in the paths of truth, goodness and beauty led by Paradise.

I see within you Cyrus great goodness, truth and beauty in your participation in finding the truth of the matter for man with God hand in hand leading us on the happiness paths of joy and happiness that are eternal.

I strongly sense that Cypress of Kashmar is a direct reflection of the Tree of Life which once stood in the capital of the Van headquarters in Khorason near Shirvan but in the highlands to the south east a little.

The reflections of the tree is all over this specific area in a very strong memory reflected in patterns like in the rugs of Shirvan with there ancient and spiritual designs that do have meaning in metaphor to a real reality many thousands of years ago further back than we realize.

Going by the direction of the Father, I feel there is a very beautiful opportunity for a  individual to go an explore this area.  I believe this is a little holy quest for man from God to go there and check out the place to see if it right.  To confirm to some degree!

We know there are vestiges there of the old Van empire and the Arattian Empire, here is one fragment I am relying on

This center of civilization was situated in the region east of the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh. A short way up in the foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what was onetime the Adamsonite headquarters of the violet race. In these highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile belt lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range, there successively arose at various periods four diverse cultures respectively fostered by four different groups of Adamson's descendants. It was the second of these groups which migrated westward to Greece and the islands of the Mediterranean. The residue of Adamson's descendants migrated north and west to enter Europe with the blended stock of the last Andite wave coming out of Mesopotamia, and they were also numbered among the Andite-Aryan invaders of India.

from

http://mercy.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=vestiges&submit=Submit

I believe we have a good opportunity to test this information by finding those vestiges.  The vestiges were in operation from as far back as 29,000 years ago before the area was abandoned.

Unfortunately Archaeologist are not going to go there because of the source of this information.  However, there is an archaeologist in Iran who I think is a very good man and who I believe has God within him and who has a great desire to crack the mythical kingdom of Arrata kingdom.  The man is the man who discovered Jiroft.  I believe he is a very good Iranian man and scholar who loves his people and the history of Iran.

However, I don't know whether he will go either unless there is some initial evidence we can uncover that may spark the curiosity of the Iranian archaeologists.

Thats why I say here is a beautiful opportunity brought about by God of Paradise for an faith son individual with a friend to go the highland capital of the Van headquarters and at least see if there are some clues of the vestiges of the Arattian kingdom.  It would be so beautiful and especially knowing where to go and to know that the angels are before you and after you  leading you physically on the paths of a great discovery for mankind in truth in relationship to the great presentation of God and Man working together as friends.

Thats what God wants to be for man, a great friend even though he is our creator and master!

Also Anau/Adonia has some clues to.

Here is an image of the tree of life that reflects the Van location in Iran found in Anau or Adonia.

When climatic conditions made hunting unprofitable for the migrating Andites, they did not follow the evolutionary course of the older races by becoming herders. Commerce and urban life made their appearance. From Egypt through Mesopotamia and Turkestan to the rivers of China and India, the more highly civilized tribes began to assemble in cities devoted to manufacture and trade. Adonia became the central Asian commercial metropolis, being located near the present city of Ashkhabad. Commerce in stone, metal, wood, and pottery was accelerated on both land and water.

Adonia is Anau

from this

http://mercy.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=Adonia&submit=Submit

and here is image of an artifact which reflects the tree of life.









All the best Cyrus

Sevens


Edited by sevens - 11-Jan-2009 at 20:02

Cyrus Im going through the links in your last post.

After an opening in praise of God and Wisdom, the Shâhnameh gives an account of the creation of the world and of man as believed by the Sasanians. This introduction is followed by the story of the first man, Keyumars, who also became the first king after a period of mountain dwelling.

 

On several occasions Jesus participated in these discussions, and before he left Urmia, Cymboyton arranged with Jesus to sojourn with them for two weeks on his return trip and give twenty-four lectures on "The Brotherhood of Men," and to conduct twelve evening sessions of questions, discussions, and debates on his lectures in particular and on the brotherhood of men in general.

In accordance with this arrangement, Jesus stopped off on the return trip and delivered these lectures. This was the most systematic and formal of all the Master's teaching on Urantia. Never before or after did he say so much on one subject as was contained in these lectures and discussions on the brotherhood of men. In reality these lectures were on the "Kingdom of God" and the "Kingdoms of Men."

6. LAW, LIBERTY, AND SOVEREIGNTY

If one man craves freedom--liberty--he must remember that all other men long for the same freedom. Groups of such liberty-loving mortals cannot live together in peace without becoming subservient to such laws, rules, and regulations as will grant each person the same degree of freedom while at the same time safeguarding an equal degree of freedom for all of his fellow mortals. If one man is to be absolutely free, then another must become an absolute slave. And the relative nature of freedom is true socially, economically, and politically. Freedom is the gift of civilization made possible by the enforcement of LAW.

Religion makes it spiritually possible to realize the brotherhood of men, but it will require mankind government to regulate the social, economic, and political problems associated with such a goal of human happiness and efficiency.

There shall be wars and rumors of wars--nation will rise against nation--just as long as the world's political sovereignty is divided up and unjustly held by a group of nation-states. England, Scotland, and Wales were always fighting each other until they gave up their respective sovereignties, reposing them in the United Kingdom.

Another world war will teach the so-called sovereign nations to form some sort of federation, thus creating the machinery for preventing small wars, wars between the lesser nations. But global wars will go on until the government of mankind is created. Global sovereignty will prevent global wars--nothing else can.

The forty-eight American free states live together in peace. There are among the citizens of these forty-eight states all of the various nationalities and races that live in the ever-warring nations of Europe. These Americans represent almost all the religions and religious sects and cults of the whole wide world, and yet here in North America they live together in peace. And all this is made possible because these forty-eight states have surrendered their sovereignty and have abandoned all notions of the supposed rights of self-determination.

It is not a question of armaments or disarmament. Neither does the question of conscription or voluntary military service enter into these problems of maintaining

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world-wide peace. If you take every form of modern mechanical armaments and all types of explosives away from strong nations, they will fight with fists, stones, and clubs as long as they cling to their delusions of the divine right of national sovereignty.

War is not man's great and terrible disease; war is a symptom, a result. The real disease is the virus of national sovereignty.  (wow!)

Urantia nations have not possessed real sovereignty; they never have had a sovereignty which could protect them from the ravages and devastations of world wars. In the creation of the global government of mankind, the nations are not giving up sovereignty so much as they are actually creating a real, bona fide, and lasting world sovereignty which will henceforth be fully able to protect them from all war. Local affairs will be handled by local governments; national affairs, by national governments; international affairs will be administered by global government.

World peace cannot be maintained by treaties, diplomacy, foreign policies, alliances, balances of power, or any other type of makeshift juggling with the sovereignties of nationalism. World law must come into being and must be enforced by world government--the sovereignty of all mankind.

The individual will enjoy far more liberty under world government. Today, the citizens of the great powers are taxed, regulated, and controlled almost oppressively, and much of this present interference with individual liberties will vanish when the national governments are willing to trustee their sovereignty as regards international affairs into the hands of global government.

Under global government the national groups will be afforded a real opportunity to realize and enjoy the personal liberties of genuine democracy. The fallacy of self-determination will be ended. With global regulation of money and trade will come the new era of world-wide peace. Soon may a global language evolve, and there will be at least some hope of sometime having a global religion--or religions with a global viewpoint.

Collective security will never afford peace until the collectivity includes all mankind.

The political sovereignty of representative mankind government will bring lasting peace on earth, and the spiritual brotherhood of man will forever insure good will among all men. And there is no other way whereby peace on earth and good will among men can be realized.

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After the death of Cymboyton, his sons encountered great difficulties in maintaining a peaceful faculty. The repercussions of Jesus' teachings would have been much greater if the later Christian teachers who joined the Urmia faculty had exhibited more wisdom and exercised more tolerance. A lesson to be learnt here!

Cymboyton's eldest son had appealed to Abner at Philadelphia for help, but Abner's choice of teachers was most unfortunate in that they turned out to be unyielding and uncompromising. These teachers sought to make their religion dominant over the other beliefs. They never suspected that the oft-referred-to lectures of the caravan conductor had been delivered by Jesus himself. (Another huge lesson today for religions that opress mankind with their brand of doctrine)

As confusion increased in the faculty, the three brothers withdrew their financial support, and after five years the school closed. Later it was reopened as a Mithraic temple and eventually burned down in connection with one of their orgiastic celebrations.  (Here is another opportunity of a little expedition of locating the school or the old Mitharic Temple.)

 

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Look at this piece which reflects the problems we today in the world because of "the world's political sovereignty is divided up and unjustly held by a group of nation" Jesus is pinpointing the current problem, the powers of the world are held by a few and their motive is one of lust for power motivated by selfishness and Greed...This is the root problem.  Its not for the people, thats the rhetoric, its for themselves.  It's these few that create the world we live in today, its through division and war is where their power comes from, they play both sides, the work of the Last Rebel!  If there is peace they will cause instability through some rhetoric promulgation of some sort.

There shall be wars and rumors of wars--nation will rise against nation--just as long as the world's political sovereignty is divided up and unjustly held by a group of nation

Another world war will teach the so-called sovereign nations to form some sort of federation, thus creating the machinery for preventing small wars, wars between the lesser nations. But global wars will go on until the government of mankind is created. Global sovereignty will prevent global wars--nothing else can.

Another world war will teach the so-called sovereign nations to form some sort of federation,

 

but

 

But global wars will go on until the government of mankind is created.

 

and this why we will have another "Another world war" that will be devastating  so  to  "teach the so-called sovereign nations" that "Global sovereignty will prevent global wars--nothing else can"

 

War will never happen until the " government of mankind is created"

 

Mind you the government of mankind" is not the present people we have in power without God or talk about God and cause war with the other hand.

 

 

World peace cannot be maintained by treaties, diplomacy, foreign policies, alliances, balances of power, or any other type of makeshift juggling with the sovereignties of nationalism. World law must come into being and must be enforced by world government--the sovereignty of all mankind.

Today, the citizens of the great powers are taxed, regulated, and controlled almost oppressively, and much of this present interference with individual liberties

Edited by sevens - 12-Jan-2009 at 00:38

Im just looking at this next lecture about

Edited by sevens - 12-Jan-2009 at 09:12

 

This information in symbolism is part of the SevenRinged cup of Jamshid which leads to elixir of immortality.  The journey is the journey of the Tree of Life which includes the trees of Eden.

All this truth is the elixir of the healing of the nations in the path of the tree of life, all this brings healing to all the nations and essentially much information came out of Iran. 

Unbelievable and fantastic!  Brilliant!  Iran plays a future in the world but on a completely different level to what we have today.  A real uplift of mankind!

 

In my research to the places I found that Jamshids cup did influence the legend of the Holy Grail, its the same thing in metaphor essentially.  I believe this journey drinks out of Jamshids SevenRinged cup and the Holy Grail and both Cups are linked to the path of the tree of life in the ancient past, the very same path I am exploring or we are exploring.

 

What intrigued me more is that one part of my lineage comes from Navarro/Aquitaine area exactly where the legend of the Holy Grail came from which Im positive was influenced by Jamshids SevenRinged cup in the first instance.  Its even more intriguing that Richard 1st,  the Lion heart is connected to the legend of the Holy Grail.  Its even more strange and my middle name is Richard and yet my first name its related to the Servant of Dionysus in meaning  whose life was a direct type in that he did die on a cross and was resurrected as the young God.  The Life Dionysus as recorded 600BC was lived by Jesus himself in actuality and who did die and was resurrected as the Sovereign of this local Universe, according to the bible, the resurrection of the Young God like in Dionysus who died on a cross and resurrected.  What are we doing here?  Resurrecting the past in truth related to the path of the tree of life concerning the ancient places and connected to Paradise itself!  Monumental! and it goes further to the God Government on this planet!  Its the Marshalling of the spiritual forces for a great change. Im sure this is the information before the time of change.  Also "the Young" component is very instrumental in the puzzle being another part of the name and pops up everywhere and directly related to the Javan that ultimately originates from the North East of Iran from the Capital of Van.  Young = Javan.  Somehow this is the link to Khorason, where the truth will come out of in the last days.  It could be that my ultimate linage, in one part comes from this place in Iran many thousands and thousands of years ago which eventually traveled to Europe in one of the 4 migrations.  Speculation city but going on hunches! and commonalties I see in the journey.

 

Nowhere does this happen.  

 

Ahh!!!  Maybe, Im getting carried away but it just gets so peculiar where you see things in type and in similar reflection to your own reality of existence and where part of yourself originates from in history and places which are connected to the great Legends of the Cups of Immortality related to the Tree of Life!  Here we are bringing out the truth of the Tree of Life!  Glory be to God!

 

Praise the Father in Heaven.

The interesting part is that in 600BC the Orphic mysteries where consolidated in its first cannon in Greece which included the best of Dionysus and a few extra thoughts but also in 600BC Zoroaster and the Great Korus road together to spread the truth of the one God with paths and links for man that has existed to this very day and has influenced all the main religions. 

There was a great uplift in many ways back in 600BC and has continued since.

 

Sevens

Edited by sevens - 12-Jan-2009 at 06:11

Jamshids sevenringed cup of immortality arising out of a well...in Jamarakan?

I think Jamshids Cup will come out of Khorason and it come from the wells of truth from our past and lead to the New World of the Government of Mankind.  Run by the Faith Sons of God.  That is the Metaphor!  Here is a few highlights I found in the Poem that I felt reflected in the journey.

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/sevenRingedCup.htm

created on 21st November 2006 

 

I was also impressed with this and look at all the reflection of the effect of the tree of Life in this article.

 

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/sevenRingedCup_khadir.htm

 

Here is reflection of Van and his friend Amadon who supped of the tree of life in highland Captial in North Eastern Iran.

 

and here is the commentary of the above image

Khizr and Ilyas at the Fountain of Life. Amir Khusrau, Khamsah
 Ilyas and Khizr sit down by a fountain to eat their repast, consisting of dried fish; the fish falling into the waters, comes to life, and thus the seekers are made aware that they have found the Fountain of Life, from which both drink. Fountain of Life = the Tree of Life.

 

 and another image of the brothers and the tree of life, a reflection, the prophets supping of the tree of truth, in truth.  The halo was the effect of the tree of life and the pair would of emitted a purple hue in reality. Like in other religious images.

 

Al-Khadir (right) and companion Zul-Qarnain (al-Sikandar) marvel at the sight of a salted fish that comes back to life when touched by the Water of Life. "When Alexander sought he did not find what Khizr found unsought" (Sikandar Nâma LXIX.75).

 

All the above is type and reflection of Van and Amadon from 200,000 years - 38,000 years ago, the Kings of the Planet at the time supping of the tree of life, the representatives of Universal Government on Earth in Ancient times and the legend still carries unto this day. 

 

I thank the Father for that.

 

Edited by sevens - 12-Jan-2009 at 08:39

Remember that story I posted on the broken Turbine blamed on UFOs.

SECURITY guards have sealed off the area where a UFO wrecked a giant wind turbine.

Dog patrols have turned the site into a no-go zone amid fears alien hunters will try to plunder any debris.

Yesterday German scientists did forensic tests to pinpoint what tore one blade off the 290ft turbine and left another useless.

UFO spotters believe an alien spaceship is the most likely cause of the incident in Conisholme, Lincs.

Exclusive ... Thursday's Sun

Similar security surrounded the base in Nevada known as Area 51, where the Roswell alien was supposedly taken in 1947.

UFO expert Nick Pope said of the UK site: “There may be something they don’t want people to see.”

The Sun told how MoD sources believed a robot stealth bomber undergoing test flights nearby may be behind the mystery.

Nick added: “If a stealth aircraft struck the turbine, it may be made of some material which is itself classified above top secret.

Respected

Local John Harrison, 32, said he looked out of his window and saw “a massive ball of light with tentacles going right down to the ground”.

Other respected witnesses, such as local council chairman Robert Palmer and GP Jenny Watson, described seeing “streaking white lights”.

Strange goings-on ... could alien activity really be responsible?

Eric Goring, 61, first noticed eerie goings-on last summer. They have recurred with such frequency Eric began thinking aliens were trying to abduct him.

He said of one close encounter in September: “I saw one come from the fields. I almost walked under it as it was just hovering 200ft above me. I didn’t want to go too near it as I was worried they might beam me up.”  ahahaha

Shaun Hodson, 30, told how he watched an object in the sky on Sunday. The marketing executive said: “I stood and watched it, transfixed. It was like nothing I have seen before.”

Dale Vince, spokesman for Ecotricity, the firm which owns the windfarm, said experts had failed to come up with an explanation for the damage. He said: “We are struggling to find an answer.”

But a Ministry of Defence insider said: “We have to log all reports of UFOs. But in virtually all the cases there is a simple explanation — and test flights are a common one.”

But a theory by Emily Bell, a local blogger for a small newspaper group, that the UFOs were fireworks from her dad’s 80th birthday party were branded ridiculous

Sevens 

Edited by sevens - 12-Jan-2009 at 09:43

I am not a good believer!
 

 
Not a problem my friend, you don't have to believe anything I post, no one does.  No one is compelled or imposed upon to believe this at all.  Not a problem!  I'm not here to obtain a following nor start a new religion as we have many religions but I know they can be enhanced.  I just want to research and find the truth but it could be the greatest thing ever found in the history of mankind.  Multiple submerged cities that we already know everything about.  Knowledge given to us by Paradise itself!  Personally!  Good for all of us and a beautiful opportunity to find the truth in harmonization with all science and religion.  A unification that is consistent in discovery and in truth!  This is what Paradise wants to demonstrate and any man can be involved in this no matter who he is.  An open Paradise project for all man.  This goes way beyond doctrine and dogma and rules and planetary Government even though it involves Government and Government of the future. 

This precisely why Muhammad urges the followers of Islam to crawl over ice to help this guy who comes from Khorasan.  Why Muhammad says that because he knows the guy from Khorason will receive no help at all and his message will be rejected even though he brings the standard or symbol of Paradise to the country of Khorason in the discovery of one the places of the Tree of Life connected to a revelation from Paradise itself!.  Muhammad realizes that everyone will reject the message and what it entails because everyone is to fixed and crystallized in the doctrine of whatever religion and its during a time of religious war, like what we have precisely in spirit and in the action.  Were all stressed out but in hard times a new revelation always occurs.
 
From what I understand in the Dead Sea Scrolls, the final message is completely rejected by all man whenever man comes across it.  However, there is one place where the message is backed up and that is by Paradise itself through the various Universe Capitals throughout all the Universes to us.
 
About the location of Bonjourd, that is interesting my friend because that is the location that Robert Sarmast believes is the location of Vans Capital.  It was in early 2006 when he presented an open contest (no money or anything) to see who could find the location.  A bunch of us was stimulated and went out to find the place.  Google was the only thing I had and few myths that I came along in the journey.  At the end of the day there where two possibilities,  Bonjourd or close to it and my location, east of Shirvan.  There the 2 contenders on this day.  Lets work through the contest and verify, it would be fun and exciting.  Like digging for a treasure of truth!  Beautiful for man to be led to the greatest discovery by faith being led by God through all the myths and legends and through religion finding a great unification of truth in the delivery!  Biggest presentation in the whole world where a whole nation could swing over into the great defined truth! and with demonstration in faith recorded on the run.  The document of Paradise, the record of the journey.  The truth of the matter!
 
So far there appears to be ancient pictographs or rock art that is close to Bonjourd that appears to reflect very ancient things.
 
It looks good for Bonjourd as close to the location considering the evidence to light so far.  However, I would still like to check out the location not far from Shirvan leading to RashVanLu and MayVan and then the location which I selected to investigate and to see if there are reflections or not.
 
Its a beautiful journey of exploration and discovery and enlivens man to seek the paths that Paradise which has been set down to us as we reveal on the run through our various research, getting to the truth of the matter.
 
I was going through your post and it was very interesting and fascinating and I noticed a very large tree in the rock art which could be reflection of the tree of life in metaphor and symbol.
 
About the believing thing, I wouldn't expect anyone to believe this as we need to do expeditions to these places and that would the greatest step in faith for man.  However, the rewards of faith is very high in this project of mankind and Paradise encourages man to walk in faith in its guidance particularly from ancient times which is very dear to Paradise! being the Crowns of truth for the planet.
 
I was impressed with Robert Sarmast's faith in stepping out to Cyprus with little money where he manifested the 2 expeditions to Cyprus.  Its precisely this kind of faith that Paradise honours.  The book and the location and we were blessed in the discovery in what it revealed,  I read and I see and I find and I realize and I know and I share.
 
For us its not a matter of personality survival because we have the witness of truth within ourselves through our religion and in our day to day relationship with God this motivated by Love and freedom rather than fear and bondage.  However, I feel its a matter of enhancement of what we already have, to define the truth better and to bring out all the verses in the books in greater light in its full potential in interpretation that is harmonized even on the scientific levels. 
 
Thanks and blessings for your contribution in your love for one another in your own efforts to define much truth, to led by God.  I really thanks the Lord for all of this.
 
Anyway I'm going to away for about 7-8 days (work) so it will be interesting how world events go in the meantime.
 
Its always interesting, as we are at the precipice of world change but I afraid Mankind will have be taught a few lessons regarding Governance, leadership and developing a world system which is good for all man run by faith Sons of the Father in heaven.
 
It could be that someone will do something really bad and stupid and that forces Paradise and I know there is warning not to force Paradise' hand, apparently it wont be successful.  The success Paradise likes to follow is the truth of our past leading to the present and the future in research, exploration, discovery and realization in light of the evidence.  Paradise has no interest in death and destruction only in revelation of truth!
 
I feel the Father in Paradise is already raising those he wants to work with in the New Government of Mankind!  Its all based on faith and good actions to all man with the Spirit God within oneself guiding from within and from the outward via the angelic circuits of the planet.  I believe you Cyrus is one such person the Father wants to work with in the new Government of Mankind and other people here no doubt about that.  This is a good forum with good people who have God in there hearts in mind body and soul.  God will honour all here.
 
No doubt about that!
 
Sevens

Edited by sevens - 12-Jan-2009 at 21:05

Shia muslims believe Shirvan will be the land ad-Dajjal (anti-Christ) but al-Mahi will come from Khayrvan, this Persian website says it: http://www.loghatnaameh.com/dehkhodaworddetail-320bb71e2aca417f9f7d592e2a847b86-fa.html