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 Topic: Obsidian swordsPosted: 07-May-2007 at 05:52 |
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Hi every one who reads this. I was wondering if any one could send me a picture give some information on obsidain swords. I know that thay where used buy some natives but I could not get much on google, thanks
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olvios
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Posted: 07-May-2007 at 05:59 |
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you mean a remnant i a museum or a modern ancient artisitc depiction of it?
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Posted: 07-May-2007 at 06:12 |
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any thing on them im just interested. there like 5 times sharper than a high quality scaple when there sharpend, how cool is that. if anyone could post a picture that would be good to.
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olvios
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Posted: 07-May-2007 at 07:44 |
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I cant seem to be able to finds a whole recontructed sword or one remaining in museums if there are any.
Just these obsidian blades  |
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olvios
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Posted: 07-May-2007 at 08:03 |
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Artistic modern depiction of a warriorhttp://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/olvios300/other/?action=view¤t=JHelguera1D.jpg
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olvios
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Posted: 07-May-2007 at 08:08 |
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And Aztec obsidian blade sword wielding warriors here
http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/olvios300/other/?action=view¤t=aztec4figure08.jpg Aztec obsidian blade sword here http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/olvios300/other/?action=view¤t=aztec4figure09.jpg |
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olvios
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Posted: 07-May-2007 at 08:17 |
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The second pic with the blade could even be reconstructed today ( it probably is) just a carpenter and some obsidian or a similar looking material!
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Paul
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Posted: 07-May-2007 at 08:57 |
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No maquahuitl survive today, there are only reproductions
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Light blue touch paper and stand well back
http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
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olvios
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Posted: 07-May-2007 at 10:17 |
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"Maquahuitl" thats the name they called it ? Do you know the etymology?Cool word for a sword.
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Athanasios
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Posted: 08-May-2007 at 17:32 |
Were these swords that effective? I doubt if this stone was dangerous, even if it was sharpened...
Anyway, as i know the Astec sword , had many pieces of obsidian through it length:
 The eagle warrior on the right, holds an obsidian sword.
A nice depiction of it:
I have the impression that aztecs were used to make a lot of time to chop a pig back then... Edited by Athanasios - 08-May-2007 at 17:34 |
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Goban
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Posted: 09-May-2007 at 13:00 |
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Paul, you should show another pic of the blade you knapped. It is quite impressive!
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The sharpest spoon in the drawer.
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Paul
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Posted: 09-May-2007 at 14:57 |
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Your wish is my command,
     Edited by Paul - 09-May-2007 at 15:08 |
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Light blue touch paper and stand well back
http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
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olvios
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Posted: 09-May-2007 at 15:29 |
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Guys this sword effective or not is mega COOL
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 05:26 |
I bet it was, actually. I once cut myself on a natural fracture edge of a piece of flint... It was sharp as you would not believe, with jagged edges for extra tearing power... It was a really ugly gash that took ages to close up again. I imagine a piece that was deliberately shaped to be sharp and dangerous could inflict some real painful damage.
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pinguin
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 10:26 |
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Obsidiane is sharper than iron. If you ever cutted yourself with glass already know how dangerous it could be.
Aztecs had special cotton protections for figthing against this kind of weapons and arrows made of the same material. Spaniards found out pretty quickly that the iron protections the had were ineficient and replaced them with the aztec cotton model.
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Paul
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 14:08 |
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Spanish armour was much more effective than Aztec. The reason many wore cotton was because steel amrour requires maintenance and the resources weren't available inMexico to do this.
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Light blue touch paper and stand well back
http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
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Athanasios
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Posted: 11-May-2007 at 12:48 |
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Yes.Sounds pretty strange that a cotton armour could be more effective than an iron one...
And really, i can't see how this stone could be more dangerous than a metal sword. Maybe its material(obsidian) when is sharpened could be. Anyway, as i can see, a tactical disadvantage is that you can't manage tip hits with this kind of weapon. |
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pinguin
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Posted: 11-May-2007 at 15:13 |
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Aztec armor it was more effective to stop arrows that was very important for horsemen, of course. I confused things up. |
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Paul
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Posted: 11-May-2007 at 15:27 |
Obsidian is way inferior to steel. It can be sharper though, but sharp is an overated quality in a sword.
There were many kinds of maquahuitl including a halberd version. Some had an additional blade in the tip, so could thrust.
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http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
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olvios
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Posted: 11-May-2007 at 17:17 |
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got any pics of that?
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